I think it's great that one can mark whether one knows the character and the tone.
However, now I get it more and more that I get two characters together which I know very well (like just before I got 以来) but I haven't yet learnt that particular combination. At the moment I just tell Skritter that I don't know the characters because I don't want them to just disappear before I've learnt the meaning.
Would it be possible to still add a new criteria, namely that you know the meaning, before it gets shelved somewhere?
I am happy to also just keep on marking the characters as unknown but I don't want skritter to then in the future think that I must relearn each character combination containing those characters...(可以，以后，以为， 后来，过来，起来，等等)...

Yeah. Still a bit confused to how the current system handles it, but proper handling of word reviews is incredibly important...

i like your examples 百发没中 , they are well known characters to me, however new meanings. the more i learn the more i get confused

I might not understand your question, but have you tried clicking on the checkmark next to the word? That is, on the right-hand side of the skrittering pane, the word is listed. After you get the characters right, it should show a green checkmark to the right of the word. If you click on that, you can cycle it around to other states (like red X). In that way, you can grade the word separately from the individual characters.

You can do the same thing with word tones, tho I'm not sure why you would want to.

Hey Xerxes314

I am currently doing what you mentioned with marking the checkmark next to the word as unknown.
I'm not sure, though, whether Skritter understands my "downgrading" of the characters the way I mean it. Because there are two ways for Skritter to understand this. The first is that it says: that guy doesn't know how to write those TWO characters. Seperately they're not a problem, but together he just doesn't get it....so I will just let him practice those two characters.
The other way would be for Skritter to say, if this guy can't write these two characters, it means he just doesn't know these characters at all and he should be tested all those other words in which one can find any of those two characters....

If Skritter handles things the first way, I can just mark the characters as unknown which is strictly speaking not quite the case (and it probably effects my retention rate) but I can live with it:) ...the other way, however, wouldn't be that great, because it would mean that I will get tested tons of words I know quite well...

It's currently a third way: he doesn't know the word, so it'll come up sooner, and he doesn't know those two characters, so they'll come up by themselves sooner (if they've been added by themselves). It doesn't affect the other words that they're in.

Xerxes314 describes what you want--mark both characters right, then manually toggle the word to 'wrong'. Not a very efficient way to do it; need some keyboard shortcuts or something.

What I am really overdue in doing is changing it so that Skritter guesses, "well, he knows this character really well, so I doubt it's that he's forgotten it--it's just probably this word." That way it won't mess with your character stats.

I vaguely remember you guys mentioning a vocab testing somehow, where one would only be tested on the knowledge of what the characters mean...if that's coming out sometime in some way or another, that would also solve the problem...I mark the characters as known and just wait for them in that other "knowledge" review.

Hey - nice tip there Nick! Didn't realise that was a word level toggle.

do you mean something different from the "definition practice" which you can enable from the settings?

ah...only just found it:)
Will see what it all does... :)

I've been trying it a bit...is there any way for me to let Skritter test me on some of the words I've already studied? At the moment it appears to only do this with the newly added ones (I don't really need it for all words, but some of the recent ones are just not sticking:).
Also, have I just not found out how or does Skritter automatically presume I know it when I click the window....If I actually don't know it, I have to aim carefully with the mouse to hit the "wrong" button or look for the according shortcut with the keyboard.
How about two big boxes beneath the word with "yes" "no" (as in the answer to the question "Do you know the definition?")?

The easiest way to enable it for some older words is to set one of your vocab lists to a place you've already done (or put some old words in the queue) and just add from there for a bit. Then the definition parts will be added.

Hmm, is aiming for the grading buttons a pain for other people? There's always the slightly bigger "correct" button toggle that still works for right/wrong.