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Leeches

Kryby   September 24th, 2013 12:35p.m.

Any chance of adding the 'leech' concept to Skritter?

That is, if an item is failed a certain number of times, it is removed from one's regular study and put in a separate list where one can review it further.

Would any other skritterers find this useful as well?

lechuan   September 24th, 2013 3:45p.m.

I sometimes do something similar by banning "leech" words and then manually studying my banned words.

snowcreature99   September 24th, 2013 7:34p.m.

This is the once in a blue moon feature request that I think should be at least considered.

As a general matter, please continue to heartlessly kill any and all feature creep.

(e.g. example sentences, which I still think is better handled in Anki for the sort of learner who is likely to really value example sentences.)

俞翰森   September 24th, 2013 10:29p.m.

Sort of agree but that is what i use staring for. I star those words and then study stars only. That can be done on IOS as well with setting that to 100%.

marchey   September 25th, 2013 12:58a.m.

Good question. This would be very useful indeed. I remember this feature appearing for a while (maybe only in the beta version of this website) a year or so ago. Then it was sort of abandoned. Any chance of getting this back? Any alternative way of obtaining the same result? If it would be possible to add words to a list XYZ on the fly so that you could cram this list later on, this would help. - Marc

mw   September 25th, 2013 3:58a.m.

How to study starred words on ios ? By setting the "star emphasis" in advanced study to 100% ?

Btw, I found out, after searching for a while, that starred words is not shown as an option in my words in case you haven't starred any wirds.

JieWen   September 25th, 2013 4:11p.m.

I want this feature.

俞翰森   September 25th, 2013 8:59p.m.

To study starred words only on the IOS just go to advanced study and crank up the star emphasis to 100%. That is the same as study the starred words only on the web site. I do this regularly since it for me do not work well with the algorithm for this. Terrible short term memory that need multiple reinforcements with short intervals(yup, old guy semi senile;-)).

nick   September 25th, 2013 11:53p.m.

Yeah, I had some code for this, but it wasn't very accurate, so I turned it off as less than helpful based on user feedback, with the intention of reviving it when I had more time to get it going again. It's one of the features we're considering doing soon.

The idea: when a word comes up for review, Skritter looks at its history and calculates a leech score, and if the score is above a certain threshold, it warns you that the item you're about to do is a leech. Then you can take whatever action you find appropriate: ban it, star it, think really hard, give it a mnemonic, look at the sentence, etc. We won't automatically do anything to it, so you have your choice of how to deal with the leech.

I have it still enabled on my account for testing, and it's certainly helpful (when it's not wrong). So I'll be looking forward to bringing this one to you.

Even with SRS, some items are going to be way harder than others for each person. The SuperMemo guys estimated that something like half the study time gets spent reviewing just 3-5% of the material (for SuperMemo, anyway). So it can be quite efficient to be able to identify those items which are harder and take them out.

Kryby   October 4th, 2013 1:58p.m.

Malaili, the problem is that some words get reviewed and reviewed but are never really remembered well. They might be remembered once or twice, but are inevitably forgotten quickly. They need special treatment if they are to be learned. Other words might be forgotten occasionally, but can still be learned with standard spaced repetition. A special list allows me (without any effort on my part) to see the ones that I'm simply not able to learn without special effort.

atdlouis   October 4th, 2013 5:44p.m.

I think the easiest solution would be to star leeches, and then review them with "Review Starred Words."

Currently, when you do this, it messes with the time the prompt is next reviewed. I really really wish Reviewing Starred words wouldn't do this. So if you reviewed a word 50 times in "Starred Words," it wouldn't push the next review out too far in your normal study mode.

马洲屹   October 4th, 2013 7:08p.m.

+1 on the original post's feature

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