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Android and Flash

dbkluck   June 29th, 2012 12:28p.m.

Slashdot tells me that Adobe is not developing a version of Flash player for Android 4.1 and is stopping development for the other versions on August 15: "Beginning August 15th we will use the configuration settings in the Google Play Store to limit continued access to Flash Player updates to only those devices that have Flash Player already installed. Devices that do not have Flash Player already installed are increasingly likely to be incompatible with Flash Player and will no longer be able to install it from the Google Play Store after August 15th."

It sounds to me like new devices sold after August 15 won't be able to download flash and hence won't be able to limp along with Skritter on android as it exists now. Does this alter the timeline for developing some sort of native android client?

nick   June 29th, 2012 1:10p.m.

It seems like new Android devices are already not really working with Skritter most of the time because of crazy user agent and Flash Player problems, and old ones stop working as they update to newer versions of Android. Blech!

We don't have time to start making a native Android app any time soon.

范博涵   June 29th, 2012 3:40p.m.

How about focussing on a HTML5 rewrite of the web site and making things work perfectly in at least Google Chrome (which I'd expect to be pretty much the same across Windows and Android)?

nomadwolf   June 29th, 2012 10:19p.m.

Is using Adobe Air a possibility? The Flash FAQ ( http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/faq.html ) seems to say AIR is a superset of Flash, but I'm certain it's more complicated than that....

alxx   June 29th, 2012 11:41p.m.

Yup No flash on android 4.1 and you have up to August 15th to install it after that its gone
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Jelly-Bean-Flash-Player-No-Flash-Support-Adobe,16160.html

You guys need a html 5 (or air ) app version for android and windows 8/rt with offline mode.
Though with windows 8/rt microsoft is looking after flash in IE like google does in chrome.


http://tv.adobe.com/watch/flash-downunder/converting-a-flash-project-to-air/

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2010/04/adobe_air_applications_for_and.html

russell359   June 30th, 2012 11:48a.m.

@nick, how about farming out Android app development to an independent developer like what the original Scrivener developers did. They had the same problem. They had developed a writer's toolbox for Mac but then found that many people wanted it on Windows, so they found a Windows developer (Lee) who wrote the Windows app...

http://literatureandlatte.com/about.php

nick   June 30th, 2012 4:12p.m.

If we found the right guy to do an Android port, it's something we'd consider. (Scrivener is great software, by the way!)

HTML5 canvas is still not hardware-accelerated on Android. I'm skeptical that it will be ready for Skritter's demands soon.

russell359   June 30th, 2012 9:43p.m.

@nick. Yes it is. I was one of those Windows users who was following Scrivener when they announced that they had (on the quiet) had a Windows version in development for a year or two. That was exciting stuff.

It's encouraging to hear that you would consider farming out development. What kind of developer would be the right guy for the job?

nick   July 1st, 2012 10:02p.m.

An Android assassin commando samurai who knows something about Chinese or Japanese, loves Skritter, and doesn't cost a small moon. So basically a unicorn centaured with an honest man: not very easy to find.

marchey   July 2nd, 2012 6:55a.m.

I use skritter on android most of the time. Don't like the turn of events this is taking. Even now I find it difficult to use skritter as my connection on the train is never good enough. An increased buffer (in the beta) was a great help, but these last few day that doesn't seem to work anymore. This morning I was able to review about 20!! characters on a 40 minutes train ride. My queue of items to review has been building up to 1250+ not because I don't want to practice, but because I can't. All of this is getting very frustrating. Now, it seems that a native Android version is nowhere in the making, while I had hoped that after finishing the iPhone app, this would be the logical next step. Seems I was mistaken.

Android_   July 6th, 2012 10:45p.m.

Would love an native android app. Would be perfect with the coming Nexus 7.

pespes   July 13th, 2012 10:44a.m.

Well, Android 4.1 is here and, as promised, flash does not work in 3rd party browsers. It does however still work in the default browser and so does skritter. So yay for mobile skrittering!

P.S.
@nick and other team members: Good job on the user agent recognition a while back! Everything works fine in the new Android, even with my troublesome user agent. Stay awesome!

nick   July 13th, 2012 9:33p.m.

pespes, you're one of the lucky ones, I'm afraid! There are still enough issues with it that Scott's working on a new system where you can manually set an Android override instead of relying on my user agent detection system.

MikeBlack   July 26th, 2012 9:14a.m.

How is this going?

lechuan   July 26th, 2012 9:49a.m.

You can still install Flash on Jellybean 4.1 if you download the APK and install manually.

More information at: http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/how-to-install-adobe-flash-player-on-android-4-1-jelly-bean/

scott   July 26th, 2012 12:49p.m.

It's done. But right now it's only available on the beta site. Become a beta user and then go to the settings on the study page to set it to Android layout.

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