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Old lists reawakening

nick   March 6th, 2009 2:13p.m.

One thing people have been asking that we forgot to mention is that when you disable lists, all the words you added from them won't be ignored, like before. It was too performance-intensive to support that.

So you'll probably be seeing a bunch of old words come up at first, if you had disabled some lists (like the radicals list, for example). What you can do is go to that list on the vocab lists page and start selecting big chunks of it, then ignoring them. It's not the best solution, but there isn't a better way that we can support right now.

But you're out of luck if the list you had ignored is HSK Level 1 (characters), since we retired that list and replaced it with HSK 1, which includes both characters and words. The old list isn't in the new system, so you can't ignore things from it. Sorry!

You would be able to ignore stuff you didn't want to see from the practice page itself, but I haven't finished the ignore interface in the new system, and probably won't for a couple weeks.

You can skip past items you don't want to see for now, until the ignore button comes back and you can ignore them harder.

Let us know if these are serious problems for you and maybe we can hack something together case-by-case. Sorry about this, guys.

Tortue   March 6th, 2009 3:02p.m.

Indeed I had some problem with HSK Level 1 (characters), I added HSK 1 from the beginning (good way to review all) but the gauge (HSK 1; 0-30) is not moving along with characters.

Nice job anyway, the speed of the stroke is quite amazing !

ChrisClark   March 7th, 2009 12:51a.m.

It really would be good to have a way to delete characters/words and not just ignore them.

nick   March 7th, 2009 9:45a.m.

Yes, there appears to be some bug with the list bars on the practice page not moving, which we're investigating.

comos: if you ignore an item, you won't see it again. What functionality is missing that you'd like to yet delete it?

ximeng   March 7th, 2009 10:59a.m.

On the progress page graph of characters learned, it has approximately 375. But the table below has a mere 10 characters learned. What's going on? Is it to do with HSK Level 1 characters, which appears on the study page still, but not on the vocab lists page?

nick   March 7th, 2009 11:08a.m.

All the stats on the progress page are for the selected time period only, which defaults to the current week. So you've added 10 characters this week so far. You can change the date range to "year" to see stats for everything.

We'll work on a fix for HSK Level 1 characters appearing on the practice page.

ChrisClark   March 7th, 2009 1:52p.m.

Well, here's my issue. Long ago, I decided to try out the radicals list and the Integrated Chinese 1, then I removed it. I really didn't want to ever study those characters again, but after the data migration, those couple that I had added now haunt me. I plan to add thousands of characters and words, and sometimes I'd like to delete something I'd tried out and never hear from it again. With the current state it's like a bad one-night stand that never stops occasionally calling me up :) Have you ever heard the story of how Google mail didn't originally have an easily accessible delete button because Google didn't view deletion as important? Right now, if you ever try out a list, you'll never stop hearing from it...

nick   March 7th, 2009 2:20p.m.

I think the best choice for you now is to go through those lists and use the "Ignore" button on the words that have been added from them that you don't want to see any more. If there aren't that many of those characters, then it shouldn't take too long and should give you the functionality you want, no?

ChrisClark   March 7th, 2009 2:38p.m.

Yes, that'll work for now. But I still believe deletion is a critical feature for the future.

baituzi439   March 7th, 2009 4:53p.m.

I'm having the problem of the HSK 1 list coming up, when I really want to be practicing ITC 15. Like your post above mentions, it's because when I first tried Skritter, I added the HSK Level 1. Now I'm following your suggestion and trying to just "skip" through the words. It seems like I might end up having to go through the whole list, so at the moment Skritter is not the super-friendly training program that it was before the interface changes. Any suggestions?

nick   March 7th, 2009 5:17p.m.

Carl, how many characters did you add from HSK Level 1 (characters)?

It might be that skipping through everything isn't working as well as expected because of the "Issue with words coming up too soon" that I've just posted about.

nhatt   March 8th, 2009 10:59p.m.

Is there a way to remove (new)old lists? For example, if I have HSK 2, but want to stop learning it, how do I remove it?

nick   March 8th, 2009 11:17p.m.

Navigate to that lists on the vocab lists page and uncheck "Add from this list."

Hobbes828   March 9th, 2009 6:50a.m.

Any way to just not migrate my old data at all / start completely over?

I realize to most people that is a scary suggestion, but I studied for a while, stopped for a while to wait for the new stuff, and just feel like a clean break (especially since I was doing the whole HSK Level 1 thing) would be worth it...

Or is this just repeating much of the same question and the answer is still no?

scott   March 9th, 2009 11:22a.m.

Hey Hobbes, I can delete all your stuff for you. I just wrote a forum post about it.

http://www.skritter.com/forum/topic?id=1023765

Just send us a comment or feedback letting us know you're sure you want all your data deleted and it will be gone by the next day, probably sooner.

Chloe   March 9th, 2009 6:32p.m.

Nice avatar, Scott. That spiny amoeba sure looks comfy.

nick   March 10th, 2009 9:58a.m.

Those are the amoeba's gears, for transferring mechanical energy to other amoebas of different sizes.

Or, when the amoeba is angry, they go really fast and function as a chainsaw. Look out, scientist! Do not enrage your mount.

baituzi439   March 17th, 2009 12:39p.m.

Nick, thanks for the reply. I was out of town for about a week, and am just getting back to Skrittering and seeing the improvements and updates. I'm trying out the "save me" button that was implemented while I was away.

Hobbes   March 24th, 2009 10:08a.m.

Hey sorry I never replied here... I ended up starting a new account before I saw your response and I am definitely far enough now (though only like 150 characters :( ) that I probably won't go back to my old one. Thanks for the response and offer though!

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