Yesterday I used the quick add function for the first time - the words got added to 'Miscellaneous' as default which was fine for me.

I was curious what would happen next -- the new system is after all supposed to be the best of both old list and queue and I have to admit that I don't understand it 100% yet.

My understanding was that if you quick add words, you don't need to worry about them anymore - like when you added words to the queue, but they never showed up for me.

I checked and saw that the Miscellaneous list is 'finished' - which I don't quite understand since I never used it and the two characters that I added yesterday are the only items on the list.

Do this to fix things.

First clicking on the "study" tab.

Then click on the finished list you need to restart studying from.

Next click on "Change Study Settings" (it's under the big "Study Textbook" button).

Then select "Add:", and choose the section that the new vocab was added to.

Last click on save changes.

I had the same problem when I added words to a Miscellaneous list and Skritter didn't automatically restart adding from the proper place of the Miscellaneous list.

Of course there are ways to get Skritter adding again, but I think that inkubus' point (and my point) is that it would be nice if Skritter automatically did the obvious thing.

Exactly, I guess I misunderstood, but I thought that this was one of the new features: if you add new words to a list section that you finished they will get added.

I reread the blog posts and it seems to say that newly added words will show up for study eventually - as long as you 'study' that list.
But to me it doesn't seem like all to much has changed: you need some words that you haven't gotten to yet as a buffer so that the list is not 'finished', otherwise you have to change the settings everytime you add one word and that kind of kills the point of the very neat new 'quick add' function.

A related question, didn't one of you guys say that the old list system was mainly intended for static lists (like textbooks) and the new system is supposed to be better for lists that for example slowly grow over a semester?
Most of my lists are like that. What I do is use the 'pause list at end of section' functionality and have one or two empty sections as buffer so that skritter does not realize I've added all words and doesn't mark the list as 'finished'.

In what way has the list system changed for non-static lists?

Hmm, this appears to be a bug then. It really should work the way you describe. It may be that the system, for some reason or another (probably a bug, even an old one that's been fixed but whose effects are still felt), thinks that your lists are 'old style', as in it thinks you haven't messed with the settings since the changes were made, and so it doesn't do the auto move forward. The idea here was to not have lists suddenly start when you weren't expecting them to when you originally set out to learn them in a certain way, but I think this might be causing more confusion than it's alleviating, so I should probably just make all lists auto start regardless of age.

To test this theory, I would manually get the lists to start adding again as described above, then see if it starts working the way it should (finishing, then starting again automatically). In the meanwhile I'll try and fix it on this end as well.

I'm still having problems when I add new words to my finished Miscellaneous list. I don't know if it's because I'm also adding a new section to the list (because it's a new month).

On a related note, I find it confoundingly difficult to restart adding manually. I can't restart it manually on the main study page (because it's listed as finished). On the page for the Miscellaneous list, I ALWAYS click on "Study List" which is not what I want. It feels unintuitive to me to click on "Change Study Settings", partly because it's small and hard to find, but mostly because I don't want to change anything. I want to continue adding words from my Miscellaneous list.

It happened to me yesterday as well

No problems here with the quick add and Miscellaneous list - so long as I always add to the last sub-list within. Occasionally after transitioning to a new sub-list I'll have to go to the Study page and click the "restart adding" button next to it, but that isn't much of an inconvenience.

I do recall that when I first started studying via the quick add I had troubles, mostly with needed to Change Study Settings and also with developing the habit of only adding to the last sub-list.

I have a bug fix on beta for this; I think I found the source of this issue. Are you guys on beta or stable? It will be pushed live on the 15th, though I may just put it live sooner; it seems to be stable enough to push it sooner.

I'm using the stable website.

Stable.

stable

Okay, good it's confined to stable it seems. I've uploaded the bug fix to the stable site then. I've gone through your three accounts and made sure the Misc list was properly set, so they should work fine from this point forward, but if anyone else has a misc list that's still stuck, it should become unstuck if you change the list settings at all (or save them without changing them) or next time you add a word to the list.

Hi Scott, I to this post because I was looking if I was doing something wrong.

I'm on the beta site, but I have the same issue, eccept for the fact that I have added words to completed scetions of a list. I expected the new words to be added at some point and the section be "re-opened". But it wasn't the case. It continued adding from the latest uncomplete section.

This feature finally seems to work now for me. :)

Also the function where skritter automatically jumps through sections you already studied works now.

I think it both has to do with the fact that I disabled the "pause after every section" function (and only use it on specific lists anymore).

@Roberto: currently it's set up not to go back immediately, but to let you finish the list where you are and then jump back. So you'll need to finish the list before those changed, completed sections will be done.

Honestly though I was unsure which behavior is preferable. Would people prefer the list system to prioritize getting those words added to older completed sections?

I think I would prefer it to be added right away and then continue normally.

My reasoning is that if I add something to previous sections then it's probably something I should have already studied but overlooked.

I think it would make more sense to prioritise previously finished sections - from my point of view, I would add a word to an old section if I expect to study it immediately, as it would tie in with previously learnt words, for example a word missed out from a particular textbook chapter's vocab. I'd add it to a new section if I wanted it to be studied later, or if it wasn't very high priority.

However, I do see that some people would prioritise the "flow" of what they are currently learning and wouldn't want that broken up.

So, the best compromise may be that it should jump back after the current section. What do others think?

I agree with inkubus and Catherine. I use hsk lists and a single personal list amde by me, divided in sections, that grow up while I'm studying. In fact my adding to previous sections is for the exact reason aCtherine explained: missed words from a previous textbook chapter/lesson that would tie in with that specific set of characters.

Also Catherine's ompromise may be viable. Best of all: give us an option to select in the Sudying settings :-)

Ideally we avoid doing an extra option, and pick a method that works for most people (since more options = more complexity, maintenance, confusion, slower development...). But looks like something that goes back is preferred.

I'll bring this up next time Nick, George and I have a meeting after the holidays.

Thanks Scott, have some restful holidays you all.

I've noticed that words I added to finished lists a few weeks ago still haven't appeared in my study sessions. Were all the bugs ironed out? How should I ensure they start to appear?

Is this the Discover China 1 list? I see there are two words you haven't added yet at the end:

兵马俑 bīngmǎyǒng: terracotta army (soldiers and horses)
主意 zhǔyi: plan; idea; decision

The list should have restarted when you added those five weeks ago. As a test I tried adding ni to the end as well, to see if I could reproduce the bug, but the list reactivated as it should have. I've tried reproducing this bug with quick add as well as normal list editing a handful of times but I'm not getting anything. Do you remember how you added those words to that list?

It was actually a remix of Colloquial Chinese where I noticed this, but the same applies to Discover Chinese. I generally add words by editing the chapter in which the word appears.

In the Colloquial Chinese list, you're still in the middle of adding words, it looks like. Are there specific words in there it should have been added by now? Any details you can provide would help. Do you ever use the quick add feature? Is there any correlation between how you add words and when they don't show up in your studies? What words, specifically, have not been added and where are the exactly? Anything and everything that seems relevant to the issue could be of use tracking it down.