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Banning Words Suggestion

InkCube   November 14th, 2011 12:23p.m.

When you guys originally unveiled the banning words function, I didn't really like it.
I just couldn't really imagine disliking a word so much that I would what to 'ban' it for ever, what was the problem with either deleting it from a specific list or removing it from your words to be added again later in better context.
I guess I just love words ;) banning them sounded so harsh...

But I have to say the way you guys implemented it is really great!
Now I can actually see myself using it (even though I will reserve myself the right to see it as a 'on-hold for now'-function ;).

What I really like is that I can determine which parts to ban and which to keep.
You have been talking about deciding which parts to study on a list basis. I think with the banning you're already really close.

You can already ban several (all) words in one section at once.
You can also choose which parts to ban if you ban an individual word.
Why not combine those two functions?

If you don't want to interrupt the banning lots of words with one click flow by the 'What parts do you want to ban' pop-up, why not add an 'Ban Parts' option to the 'Word Actions...' drop-down menu.

This would be very helpful to me and I imagine my fellow skritteres as well.

InkCube   November 14th, 2011 6:35p.m.

I feel a bit silly now, but I've actually run into a problem with that strategy.

I have many lists where I need to learn alot of words passively every week and while I want to study the writing too, I don't really have the time to make that a priority. So I figured if I ban the writing for all the words, I can study the rest and I can start unbanning some of the writings when I'm ahead with my weekly study-load.

But skritter doesn't add the items -- they get just skipped and I get a 'banned item skipped' message even though only writing and tones are banned. :(

Is it supposed to work this way?

Catherine :)   November 15th, 2011 4:32p.m.

Are you sure it's not just the writing/tone being skipped? I've tried this on some others and it worked - I banned the definition for a character but the other parts still came up.

For your initial suggestion, I did find banning parts very useful. But yeah, maybe 'save for later' should be used instead of the banning. That way if another list later adds the word I 'saved for later' it will be added back into study.

For the drop-down menu you mentioned, 'Ban words/ban parts of words' would be good, and also I would *really* like to see a 'remove from this list' or 'MOVE to another list' - i.e., add to another list and remove from this one. At the moment moving groups of words between big lists is really awkward.

InkCube   November 15th, 2011 6:21p.m.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work because if I click on the (+) once then it skips through the whole section (I get one skipped warning immediately followed by the next), after a while skritter tells me it's "still looking for something to add" and when I check out the section afterwards it is marked as finished and neither definitions nor readings have been added.

I like your ideas too Catherine especially the move/remove function.

scott   November 15th, 2011 7:27p.m.

Hmm, that's a use case we hadn't thought about. I'm wondering, once we've implemented the ability to choose what parts to study for a given list, how close will that be to this case? That is, would that essentially cover what you're doing, or is it important to have that kind of fine grained control?

We're reluctant to add just anything to the drop down, to keep things simple unless proven worthwhile of the space and implementation/maintenance time. Everything we add kind of compounds on each other, so it's important to pick and choose the things we'll do wisely.

Same with adding a 'move to another list' action. Removing, that's on the list to add to the word actions dropdown.

Inkubus, what section in particular have you seen this happen? Let me know and I'll work on fixing any bugs there are.

Catherine :)   November 15th, 2011 7:59p.m.

That sounds great - having the ability to 'add to another list' (existing) and then 'remove from this list' would basically be the same as 'move' anyway. Thanks :)

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