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stuck with radicals 34/35

Mats   May 16th, 2013 1:59a.m.

Gah!
What's the difference between radicals 34 and 35?

to "walk"/zhi3 and "walk slowly"/sui1, even doing some searches I find the pinyin mixed up, how did you learn these? :)

pts   May 16th, 2013 2:20a.m.

夂 zhǐ appears on the top or left hand side of a character. For example, 冬 条 处.

夊 suī appears on the bottom or the right hand side of a character. For example, 夏 复 致.

itaju   May 16th, 2013 4:54a.m.

i don't know if i'm wrong, but I write zhi3 in 3 strokes and sui in 4. am I correct?

pts   May 16th, 2013 7:44a.m.

The difference between 夂 zhǐ and 夊 suī is that the third stroke of zhi just touches the first stroke while sui crosses it.

But for those only learning simplified characters, they can simply forget about the difference because they are written in exactly the same way. For characters like 致, the sui has even been changed into the 4 strokes 攵 pū. Yes, simplified characters can have more strokes than their corresponding traditional ones.

Mats   May 16th, 2013 12:39p.m.

Thanks pts, although looking at one of the examples you write, fu4, Pleco says it has the zhi3 radical 34 - so I guess being confused about these is okay :)

pts   May 16th, 2013 4:12p.m.

For those people who only use simplified Chinese, they may not be aware that there is this sui radical, because they will never encounter it in their daily life.

But for those using traditional Chinese, the difference between zhi and sui is fairy obvious. Just display the character with a traditional font, and one can immediately determine whether it is using a zhi or a sui without consulting a dictionary first. Try displaying the character 复 with 標楷體 (DFKai-SB or KaiU in non Chinese windows) and see for yourself.

If you don't have that 標楷體, Another standard traditional font supplied by the ministry of education TW is available from

http://www.edu.tw/FileUpload/3691-17004%5CDocuments/edukai-3.ttf

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