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3rd tone font problems

Schnabelhund   October 14th, 2013 5:46p.m.

Hi,
I'm using a Chinese font for Chinese websites on Chrome, but the Latin characters in it are missing for the third tone. It seems that the language of Skritter is set to zh, so Chrome chooses this font and I can't see the pinyin properly. Can you show the pinyin on the web in a font with 3rd tone characters, or show it in another language so I can see the third tone? Thanks.

俞翰森   October 14th, 2013 10:33p.m.

You can try to use this font instead: http://www.skritter.com/misc/simkai.zip It do have the Chinese tones properly configured.

Schnabelhund   October 15th, 2013 4:44a.m.

Thanks 俞翰森, but I'm using WenQuanYi Micro Hei because it handles Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese and Japanese (all of which I need) particularly well, and the alphabet looks nice too. I'd like to continue using it because I virtually never need to read any pinyin on a Chinese or Japanese website. KaiTi is not very good in Japanese, and I also find that the toned vowels have odd spacings.

nick   October 15th, 2013 10:51p.m.

This is the pinyin style rule we should be using for anything we tag as pinyin:

*[lang="zh-Latin-pinyin"] { font-family: "Arial Unicode MS", "Arial Unicode", "Lucida Sans Unicode", sans-serif; }

Two things seem plausible:

1) We have forgotten to tag something as "zh-Latin-pinyin" and instead just put "zh". Is it some particular instance, or all instances? (We should have most of them, especially the main ones.)

2) The way that your Chinese font is specified is too aggressive. Is there a way you can specify an alternate font for "zh-Latin-pinyin" to more specifically target our choices above there?

Schnabelhund   October 16th, 2013 12:50a.m.

The problem occurs wherever I see pinyin except on the flashcard itself. I'm using the Advanced Font Settings extension (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/advanced-font-settings/caclkomlalccbpcdllchkeecicepbmbm?hl=en).

It seems that zh-Latin-pinyin is being overwritten by "Simplified Han"; can you find what would be zh-Latin-pinyin in the list in the extension? The setting for "Traditional Han" doesn't affect the pinyin font on the website.

By the way, can you add Ubuntu or Linux Biolinum to the pinyin font stack? I'd like to use free fonts that handle pinyin well.

nick   October 27th, 2013 8:13p.m.

I installed the extension to check it out, but I don't think it offers anything that would cover zh-Latin-pinyin. You could contact the developer, perhaps.

I'll add those to fonts at the end of the pinyin font stack, sure.

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