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Feature request: off-line add queue (iOS app)

notfromhere   July 19th, 2013 7:20a.m.

Hi there,

I would like to propose the following:

A queue on the iOS app that will contain the next few words to be added. The number could be something fixed (say, 15 or so) or adjustable.

Motivation:

Despite having connectivity almost everywhere, I still find myself in lots of situations where I have none. My daily commute on the London Underground (no mobile reception), flights, trips to foreign countries, holidays in remote places.

These situations tend to be when I actually have time to dedicate to extra learning. I know I can manually add a couple of words beforehand, but I find it a bit overwhelming. It's much better to add words periodically, one at a time.

Potential problems:

The one issue I see is avoiding duplication when using more than one device (I use both an iPhone and iPad Mini). This can be solved as follows: let's say we queue ten words on each device. Have the site maintain a list of the queue for each device. So if I queue 10 words on the iPhone, and then on the iPad, the iPad will get the next ten words from whatever lists I happen to be studying. Skip these 20 words if I study on the site, until I sync the app again. Add a way to reset the queue on the site (in case I lose my device).

This may not be perfect and there may well be more elegant solutions. But on the whole I'd much rather risk a bit of duplicate learning and loss of stats if it enables me to gradually add more words while off-line.

Thank you!

achromatize   July 19th, 2013 11:50a.m.

For the time being, just manually add some before you go out. While it's still connected to my at-home wifi, I double click the (+) button and select "add 10."

notfromhere   July 20th, 2013 5:45a.m.

Like I said, that's what I do now, and I find it a bit too much. A couple of days ago I added 10 before getting on a flight. I'm still struggling to memorise those.

nick   July 24th, 2013 10:50p.m.

I know it would be cool to have, but it's not as simple as we'd like to implement it. (Most features having to do with the word-adding and syncing across devices are very tricky to get right.)

It's something we might think of a clever workaround for, but so far the best we've done is this: as you pre-add more words, the Skritter iOS app realizes there are many new ones and starts to spread them out automatically. I don't think it kicks in until many more than ten are added, though, so it's really designed for when you're going to be offline for days and still want new words while being prepared to study a lot.

notfromhere   July 26th, 2013 7:56p.m.

Thanks Nick, I'll try adding more than 10 next time and see how that goes.

notfromhere   August 11th, 2013 4:27p.m.

I inadvertedly triggered this behaviour, I think. In the Study Settings, I enabled "Also Add Characters When Adding Words", and then agreed to it resetting my lists.

I did this once before, and found it too confusing. But now that I know more words, and enough that most characters I know occur in more than a few words, it's making a lot more sense.

One question: Is there a way to see what is in the added-but-not-yet-reviewed queue?

Thanks

nomadwolf   August 11th, 2013 11:53p.m.

For "Also adding characters", if a character is only in 1 word, then I ban it until I have more words using that character.

Or I just ban the definition if it is never used as a stand-alone word.

notfromhere   August 12th, 2013 4:35a.m.

nomadwolf, this may be a noob question, but how do you know if a character is ever used on its own?

Thanks

nomadwolf   August 13th, 2013 11:40p.m.

Just from my memory... I could be wrong, but there it is.
However, on the website, if you go to the character information page (for example from My Words), it will list other words that contain that character, and you can identify if you have those words in your list (based on the blue plus (if you don't have it) or green check-mark (if you do have it)).
But even if that character is in 2 or more of your words, they might not show up in that information screen...

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