I made a couple of lists that included characters such as 龜and 像。 For 龜, the Skritter version isn't quite right. And the skritter version of像is missing the 7th stroke. 養is missing the 5th stroke. Also, 以is missing the 2nd stoke.

Another then these, I haven't noticed any issues! :)

Never seen a problem with 像 or 以, maybe I write them differently, though. The others I haven't studied yet.

@milfes: Skritter is using the fonts defined by mainland China and they are the standard ones in the mainland.Those you are familiar with are used in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Just hope that the users can choose between Mainland traditional, Taiwan traditional and Hong Kong Traditional.

Hi Pts,
Actually, it's not an issue of simplified/traditional characters. For example, the character 以 has 5 strokes. This is standard in Taiwan/China/Hongkong. However, the Skritter version of 以 only has 4 stokes, because it does the first and second stokes together. This is what I'm talking about.
The traditional versions of 龜 and 縣 are definitely not right.

Depends whom you ask...my Chinese tutor from Beijing (and his wife) both learned the 4-stroke version of 以. I can't comment on the traditional characters, though.

Hi milfes,

When you said 'the character 以 has 5 strokes' I thought 'What? It clearly has 4!'. Then I looked it up on MDBG and nciku - they both agree with you that it's got 5...

According to MDBG 以 is made up of 厶 and 人 both of which have 2 strokes, and 2+2=4. There also seems to be a 丶 which would bring the total to 5.

However, what is the second stroke of 厶? It's the little flick of the brush upwards at the end. This gets omitted when 厶 is written as part of 以. This brings the total back down to 4.

That's my interpretation - I'm no authority on this!

I'm actually the dude that does all the stroke ordering and the simple answer to the simp/trad stroke order debate is that we try to support both forms as accurately as possible while not imposing a burden on those that want to learn just simplified. We're also limited by unicode constraints.

So for instance, it looks like you're right about 以 being a 5 stroke character in traditional. The problem is that we don't have a separate unicode point for that variation, so at least for the moment we can't easily allow both forms and in such cases we try to make the simp forms consistent, since more people on the site use simplified characters.

龜 is a pretty gnarly one, and I took a look and found a few errors with our form, mainly we had an incomplete knife radical on the top, and we needed to extend one of the vertical strokes. I've reviewed the stroke order on that one quite a few times and it's no fun. :)

縣 was incorrect as well. I don't know what radical was on the left side, but it should have been a 県. Fixed now.

Both 龜 and 縣 were made before we upgraded our font to one that had more accurate unicode points. Thanks for pointing those out so that I could fix them.

If you find any more problems feel free to drop me a line and I'll do my best to fix them up.

milfes:
From the following web site,
http://news.xinhuanet.com/edu/2009-08/12/content_11868392.htm , you can download a table called the “通用规范汉字表”. This table is published by the Chinese government and defines the standard way of how the characters should be written in the mainland. From the last section of this table, you can see how the traditional form of the characters like 像 and 養 are written in the mainland. They are different from those defined in Taiwan. The character 以 (0182 on page 2) is only 4 strokes in the mainland, although it is 5 strokes in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

From the following link, http://input.foruto.com/ccc/gongbiu/dzijingbiu/doc/dzijingbiu_list.pdf , you can download the “常用字字形表” . (The main page is at http://input.foruto.com/ccc/gongbiu/ .) This table list the fonts used in Hong Kong. You can see that the character 龜 and 縣 displayed by Skritter match those in this table.

For completeness, the Taiwan standard is here: http://www.edu.tw/files/site_content/M0001/mu/c5.htm?open . If you look carefully, you can see that there are subtle differences in all the three standards and are not the same as you have thought.

Hi everyone,
Thanks for your messages! So now I now that the simplified version of 以has 4 strokes.

:)

cheers!

Hi George，
Thanks for the prompt reply and for fixing 龜and 縣。 So I assume that if you want to keep 以as is for the traditional version, that you probably would feel the same way about 像 (and a couple of other characters that I can't think of) , right?

I just thought of the other Skritter characters that are slightly incorrect.
鬼 and 塊。 They're both missing a stroke. Both of them should have a 田.

解 isn't right either. The left side is a 角　; the sixth stroke shouldn't go through the seventh stoke. In other words, there should be a 土 in the center of the character, underneath 冂 。


:)　

All of those are examples of Taiwanese styles which must necessarily be overriden by simplified or mainland styles, owing that there aren't separate character points for them and our architecture doesn't support minor stylistic differences like that without separate character points. Sorry milfes!