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example words in popup ignore traditional differences

jww1066   March 9th, 2011 7:33p.m.

The sample words in the word popup always seem to be simplified, even when the character in question is traditional. Even worse, the sample words seem to be based on the simplified characters, which becomes a problem when there are several traditional characters for a single simplified character.

For example, let's say we're looking at the traditional character 髮 (hair). This is simplified to 发, which is also the simplification of 發 (emit, develop). Skritter currently shows the following sample words in the popup:

头发 tóufa: hair (on the head)
发音 fāyīn: pronunciation
出发 chūfā: start out; set off
发现 fāxiàn: to find; discover; dis...

Even ignoring the fact that these are simplified, only 头发 is even correct as a sample word for 髮, as the others are sample words for 發.

I would request two fixes. First, if the character is traditional, show traditional characters in the sample words. (And the components, if at all possible.) Second, show only sample words for the specific traditional character, not using the simplified character.

James

dfoxworthy   March 10th, 2011 1:44a.m.

A. I honestly didn't believe 發 and 髮 were the same character in simplified till I looked it up. I have to say I am utterly shocked by this. I'm imagining people hanging the character 髮 up on a door or wall for good luck now and instead all they get is hair growing from their ears. 財神 must be very confused when visiting.:)

B. Also, I thought this would be an issue only for you since you are studying both simplified and tradition. I have the same problem in only tradition. I hope this can be fixed as this is a huge error for traditional learners.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I'll have to be more careful in looking at example words now.

jww1066   March 10th, 2011 1:46a.m.

@dfoxworthy I don't think the popup cares what style you're studying. I would think it should change its logic based only on whether the word/character focused on is simplified, traditional, or both.

dfoxworthy   March 10th, 2011 2:03a.m.

Yeah, I wasn't sure how it worked since I've never experimented with both on skritter. It seems it like a basic layover instead of a whole different system. Which is probably way easier programing wise.

scott   March 10th, 2011 9:26a.m.

Hmm, looks like this could be made better, yeah. I'll work on it shortly; am currently in the middle of changing some code which is not production-ready, once that's done then I'll get to this.

jww1066   March 10th, 2011 9:42a.m.

Great, thanks. Another problem (probably related) is that if you click on the green "add" button next to the sample words, only the simplified version is added to the queue, even if you're studying both. Not sure what would happen if you were studying traditional only...

scott   March 30th, 2011 2:06p.m.

Fixed and uploaded! Have a look see and let me know if there's anything I missed.

jww1066   March 30th, 2011 2:13p.m.

@scott I checked it just now, looks perfect! Thanks!

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